HACCP: chi lo deve pagare?

Se dico HACCP tutti ormai sappiamo di che si parla.
Ma ne siamo sicuri?
La risposta è no. Almeno, questo è emerso da una discussione sfociata all’interno dell’OCCCA CLUB, dopo che un iscritto ha chiesto se il corso di formazione dell’HACCP fosse obbligatoriamente a carico del datore di lavoro.
Secondo una buona parte, il datore è obbligato a pagare il corso, per poi diventare di fatto proprietario dell’attestato. Nel momento in cui si dovesse interrompere il contratto di lavoro, sarebbe quindi possibile per lui trattenere l’attestato HACCP del dipendente.
Dall’altra parte della discussione c’era chi sosteneva che invece essendo il corso di natura personale, ovvero non legato al sistema di produzione dell’attività ristorativa, la proprietà dell’attestato è del dipendente, il quale indipendentemente dal luogo di lavoro dovrà attenersi sempre alle regole di base (che ricordiamo sono di natura comunitaria europea) e il costo del corso non è obbligatoriamente a carico del datore.
All’interno di questo argomento c’è innanzitutto la necessità di distinguere il corso HACCP da quello che è il manuale per l’autocontrollo alimentare e procedure relative alla sicurezza dell’igiene, entrambe a carico del datore di lavoro il quale ha l’obbligo di provvedere a tutti i controlli necessari per garantire la salubrità del prodotto.
Nonostante abbia provato a chiedere maggiori delucidazioni ad enti competenti, sindacati e legali non sono riuscito a determinare in assoluto tra chi avesse torto o ragione.
Secondo il legale di un sindacato (ma su questo continuerà l’approfondimento nei prossimi giorni) ogni regione può legiferare differentemente su questo aspetto, motivo per cui ci sarebbero:
– regioni in cui il costo è obbligatoriamente a carico del datore
– regioni in cui il costo NON è obbligatoriamente a carico del datore
– regioni in cui addirittura sembra che il costo sia ripartito al 50% tra datore e dipendente.
Al contempo c’è chi smentisce completamente tutto (nella fattispecie una consulente che organizza i suddetti corsi, la quale nega che in qualsiasi regione sia obbligatorio per il datore pagare per il dipendente)
Andando a ricercare maggiori informazioni sul tema quello che è emerso con certezza però, sono altri aspetti, a mio avviso ancora più confusionari e soprattutto più pragmatici, ovvero la durata di validità del corso.
Si perchè mentre il costo è dopotutto una questione relativamente irrisoria dal punto di vista economico (tra le 50 e le 100 euro), altra faccenda più spigolosa e che può comportare disguidi più pratici è la scadenza dell’attestato, che è differente per ogni regione.
Volete un esempio?
– In Toscana il corso ha validità per 5 anni
– In Umbria per 3 anni
– In Sardegna per 2 anni.
Poniamo che un cameriere che lavora a Firenze abbia fatto il corso dell’HACCP nel corso del 2014. Finito il corso gli verrà riferito che il suo attestato avrà validità per 5 anni.
Lo stesso ragazzo però si licenzia a Marzo del 2017 e decide di partire per una stagione estiva in Sardegna.
Ovviamente quando gli verrà chiesto se è in possesso dell’HACCP, lui risponderà affermativamente. Peccato però che  il suo corso, avvenuto nel 2014 sarà scaduto per la regione Sardegna dove la validità è di 2 anni.
Qualcuno potrà giustamente sostenere che durante il corso di formazione viene specificato che ogni regione decide la durata di validità. Vero, ma dove è possibile trovare l’elenco di queste scadenze per ogni regione?
Oppure nel 2016 dobbiamo chiamare al telefono l’ufficio asl competente per regione per avere questa informazione?
Soprattutto ad oggi non abbiamo trovato alcuna risposta del perchè, per quale motivo, sia stata permessa questa differenziazione e in virtù di cosa ci sono regioni che decidono scadenze di 2 anni o 5.
Fintanto che la situazione sarà questa però, vorremmo perlomeno correre ai ripari e fare maggiore informazione, visto che non siamo riusciti a trovare un database nazionale che dica in ogni regione quanto dura la validità dell’HACCP, sapreste dirci nella vostra regione quale è il termine di scadenza entro il quale rinnovare il corso?

  1. Lavoro in un ingrosso di bevande dove maneggio alimenti sigillati ho bisogno sicuramente del haccp ma.il mio datore di lavoro vuole accollarmi la.spesa sapete dirmi a chi spetta il pgamento di questo attestato grazie

  2. Salve io mi sono licenziato, e ho conseguito l’attestato HACCP mentre lavoravo in azienda. Adesso che mi sono licenziato, a chi va l’attestato? Il datore di lavoro mi dice che resta in azienda e non me lo da.
    Può farlo?

  3. Perche si, in Italia le leggi ci sono, ma quanto a farle rispettare in certi casi siamo ancora al livello delle gilde. Anzi, guai se qualcuno dice a qualcun altro che ci sono delle leggi da rispettare. In realta son 22 anni che e in vigore il sistema di autocontrollo. HACCP non e uno starnuto e chi lo viola ne deve pagare le conseguenze. Come operatore alimentare ma anche consulente e formatore in materia, ritengo che a distanza di cosi tanti anni non sia tanto una questione di leggi da rispettare, quanto di idiozia e malcostume da parte di operatori non motivati, male istruiti o che pensano di essere piu furbi di tutti. Se un collaboratore si offende se gli si spiega che esiste un protocollo igienico da rispettare, e meglio che cambi mestiere.

  4. Buongiorno mi chiamo Lorenzini Barbara lavoro in un supermercato da cassiera mi hanno spostata alla gastronomia a metà marzo. Mi hanno fatto firmare un foglio dove dovevo frequentare il corso dell’alimentarista on-line, al momento dell’accesso mi hanno rifiutata dicendomi che io attestato ce l’ho già ma è scaduto.(l’avevo fatto nel 2015 per la macelleria.). Vorrei capire se l’aggiornamento della HACCP è a mio carico oppure se ne deve occupare la mia azienda.? In caso di controllo essendo io non in regola, cosa rischio come dipendente? Grazie
    Cordiali saluti
    Barbara Lorenzini

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